August 2000
    Meeting with former Maori Commissions

    from The Jobs Letter No.130 / 8 September 2000

  • Voices — Mayor Fox, McCabe, Wetere, and Professor Shirley
  • Photos from meeting with Maori Commissions / Mayors Taskforce
  • The MAYORS TASKFORCE FOR JOBS met in Wellington with leaders from the (now dis-established) Maori Economic and Employment Commissions on 31 August 2000. Recognising that the Maori unemployment rate is about three times the level of all New Zealanders, the Mayors wanted to draw on the experience of the Maori Commissions when considering their own plans for employment action.

    The meeting was convened by Wairoa Mayor Derek Fox, and included presentations from June McCabe (former chair of the Maori Economic Development Commission) and Rongo Wetere (former chair of the Maori Employment and Training Commission). They outlined the work of the Commissions, and gave their recommendations for designing employment strategies which will have the greatest impact on Maori.

    The meeting included a presentation from Professor Ian Shirley, of Massey University, who last year led a team developing a national employment strategy on behalf of the Maori Employment and Training Commission. This strategy team was working closely with Business and Economic Research Limited (BERL) to create employment action plans for five selected regions (Canterbury, Hawkes Bay, South Waikato, Waitakere City and Northland).

    The philosophy of this strategy team was that a national employment strategy would need to be created before effective work could be done on a specific Maori component. The strategy team also didn't want to produce just another report ... but preferred to create an "action plan" which would capitalise on the opportunities for growth in the regions, and "roll back the barriers" to attracting, encouraging and developing the entrepreneurial capacities of local people.

    This employment strategy was not completed, primarily because the incoming Labour/Alliance government asked the Commissions to wind up their efforts. The reports and summaries of the Commissions' work on the strategy have only recently been released to the public.

    Professor Shirley reported to the Mayors that the project would need another six months of funding for it to be completed, and this work would include further regional workshops, and the formulation of a specific employment strategy for Maori. The Mayors at the Wellington meeting were impressed by Professor Shirley's presentation, and agreed to approach the government with the recommendation that his work on the employment strategy be completed.

  • Mayors who were present at the Taskforce meeting included Derek Fox (Wairoa), Garry Moore (Christchurch), Claire Stewart (New Plymouth), Jenny Brash (Porirua), Graeme Ramsey (Kaipara), Yvonne Sharp (Far North), Chas Poynter (Wanganui), John Terris (Hutt) and Mark Blumsky (Wellington).


    Mayor of Wairoa
    I agree with the Commissions that employment is the biggest difficulty that Maori are facing. You cannot have such extraordinarily high levels of Maori unemployment continuing because it just creates more disaffected people ... and it is all tied up with poor housing, poor health and all the other negative indices.

    And the key is jobs. If people have jobs then they have the opportunity to participate in the economy.

    I agree with the thrust that the Commission took which was that we need to have an overall New Zealand employment strategy ... because if we simply say we have a problem with Maori employment, then we will not have a wider ownership of the problem, and there will be minimalist programmes established to deal with it.

    The figures that I wanted to draw the Mayors attention to were that 80% of the Maori population is under the age of 30 years. The mean average age of Maori is 22 years. This contrasts with the mean average age of non-Maori which is at 34 years.

    Now that presents a problem for planners. If you are planning programmes which are aimed at a bulge that is 34 years old, then you are in trouble with Maori which has another bulge of younger people who are only 22 years old. These are the sorts of things that all central planners need to take into account. What this means is that if young Maori are unemployed now ... then that huge bulge of people have yet to come into the productive economy.

    I think Mayors for Jobs is an extraordinarily positive group and you can see that there are people here who are keen to get to grips with this issue. I think it would have been very easy for us to descend into telling "war stories" about various projects we are involved in, but I think the strategic approach at this time is correct. We still have to roll up our sleeves and find the solutions now.

    Former Chair of Maori Economic Development Commission
    The issues here are quite massive. It would seem to me that the solutions are all about small steps, not quick fixes. There are a lot of incremental things that can be done and done together. We need a spectrum of initiatives so that we move away from the idea that one solution has to fit all problems.

    For example, I think an important task will be bringing appropriate mentors into the Maori communities, aimed at those Maori who have the will and desire to change their circumstances ... but don't have the information, or don't know where to go to get it.

    Maori have an asset base of about $10.6 billion, and, of this, about $6 billion is in land assets. The top area that Maori should be paying attention to is the area of tourism. But not tourism in the sense of people coming to look at attractions ... we need more of the sort of tourism that gives people a community or cultural experience.

    The other area we need to look at is developing individual entrepreneurs and small businesses. In the past, Maori has focussed on large-scale industry — meat or forestry — where you are building a certain skills-set that is dependant on that work. We need to change that towards growing small business initiatives within the community, and this will require different skills. More small businesses will keep people interested in staying in the region and they don't migrate to the big city or overseas. The figures here are looking hopeful because the numbers of Maori in the self-employment figures are about 15%.

    What I would be saying to Maori parents today is to support and encourage your children to look beyond the boundaries of what is there now. Encourage them to think of possibilities. Help them to want to do that through education, through accessing information and linking up with people who you know have been a success.

    Former Chair of Maori Employment and Training Commission
    If we have 7% unemployment in New Zealand overall ... then this means virtually 20% unemployment for Maori. These statistics are not really sustainable over the long term. The community needs to address these statistics if we are to avoid absolute social disruption in the years ahead.

    I regard Maori as being in a crisis situation in terms of the effects of benefit dependency and unemployment. This can be seen in that Maori, with only 15% of the population, are resulting in almost 40% of the abuse cases. And the results of a National Party survey show that one in two Maori males will have a serious conviction against their name by age 20 (... and not from traffic offences).

    We believed, as a Commission, that it was ridiculous that New Zealand didn't have an employment strategy, and that it didn't have clear guidelines on how to achieve full employment in New Zealand. Full employment should be our commitment ... and if you don't plan for it, then you will never achieve it.

    I'm delighted that the Mayors Taskforce for Jobs has taken up this challenge and set itself some goals for the year 2005. I believe that a united Mayors Taskforce will receive the full backing of Maoridom in endeavouring to address these issues. I think they will gain a lot of respect for their efforts as they take up the cudgels on employment and jobs.

    We've got a job to get the bureaucrats and government on-side. But this shouldn't really be difficult given the political situation that currently exists — we now have as government that is prepared to attack the disparities gap.

    Massey University, who led a team developing a national employment strategy on behalf of the Maori Employment and Training Commission.
    New Zealand doesn't have an employment strategy and this is where we need to start. Developing a strategy is quite different from producing a series of reports. We're talking about engaging with people at the regions and at a local level so that we collectively identify the employment barriers and we create a strategy for employment and economic development.

    When you start to look at this across the board, you start to recognise that issues like governance, for example, are fundamental to developing the regions. The physical infrastructure of the regions, the utilities available, the education and training systems ... all of these things come together to both improve the capacities of the workforce and the capacities of the region.

    I think if you focus all your attention on Maori, then you end up focussing on them as victims. There was an anthropologist that used to ask: Why is it that we always focus down on captive populations ... and never focus up?

    If we are going to have an understanding of what the true barriers and opportunities are for Maori in employment, then we have to take a broader perspective. We have to look at the governance structures, we've got to look at the capacities and competitive advantages of the regions. And then, within this, we can start to address the specific need of groups such as Maori.

    Sources — Interviews with Vivian Hutchinson at the Mayors Taskforce for Jobs meeting with Maori Economic and Employment Commissions, Wellington 31 August 2000.